I seldom see so much reasonable sounding silliness. I don’t have the time to make an appropriate post.
Adoption studies dude. Also once you control tiger moms for the heritable traits they give to their kids you get a big fat zilch in the long term (short term effects can be strong but they wear off).
EY talks about “work ethic” in HPMOR to explain Askenazi success, I’m sure it helps, but Jewish sucess is eight tenths their high IQ. And I’m pretty sure that is genetic in origin.
EY talks about “work ethic” in HPMOR to explain Askenazi success
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Padma Patil (whose parents came from a non-English-speaking culture and thus had raised her with an actual work ethic), Anthony Goldstein (out of a certain tiny ethnic group that won 25% of the Nobel Prizes)
Padma Patil is not Ashkenazi, she’s Indian. The passage explains Anthony Goldstein’s success via ethnicity simpliciter, but Padma Patil’s via her parents’ cultural parenting style.
I explicitly recalled him talking about an “actual work ethic” as a positive trait of a culture as an explanation for success and I recalled him making a throwaway line about Goldstein’s ethnicity. I morphed them into one.
Bad brain, terrible brain! Trust your recollections less! Or maybe I should just reread HPMOR after all this time, I’m guessing new chapters have been released in 2012 :D
Note that I’m attacking Aurini’s argument, which was based on straight educational outcomes. I do appreciate the additional information; I’m neither American nor a social scientist, so my knowledge is ultimately limited.
Nah.
I seldom see so much reasonable sounding silliness. I don’t have the time to make an appropriate post.
Adoption studies dude. Also once you control tiger moms for the heritable traits they give to their kids you get a big fat zilch in the long term (short term effects can be strong but they wear off).
EY talks about “work ethic” in HPMOR to explain Askenazi success, I’m sure it helps, but Jewish sucess is eight tenths their high IQ. And I’m pretty sure that is genetic in origin.
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Padma Patil is not Ashkenazi, she’s Indian. The passage explains Anthony Goldstein’s success via ethnicity simpliciter, but Padma Patil’s via her parents’ cultural parenting style.
Sorry I was speaking from memory. Retracted.
I explicitly recalled him talking about an “actual work ethic” as a positive trait of a culture as an explanation for success and I recalled him making a throwaway line about Goldstein’s ethnicity. I morphed them into one.
Bad brain, terrible brain! Trust your recollections less! Or maybe I should just reread HPMOR after all this time, I’m guessing new chapters have been released in 2012 :D
Note that I’m attacking Aurini’s argument, which was based on straight educational outcomes. I do appreciate the additional information; I’m neither American nor a social scientist, so my knowledge is ultimately limited.